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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

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February 22

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February 22, 2025 (2025-02-22) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

February 21

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February 21, 2025 (2025-02-21) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

  • Gaza war
    • 2025 Gaza war ceasefire, Gaza war hostage crisis
      • Israel says that forensic testing revealed one of the bodies returned by Hamas yesterday does not match with Shiri Bibas nor with any other hostages. Her sons Ariel and Kfir, as well as Oded Lifshitz, were all positively identified. Israel accuses Hamas of violating the ceasefire and demands the return of her body along with the other remaining hostages. (BBC News)
      • Hamas claims that Shiri's body was "mistakenly mixed" with others who were killed and buried under the rubble in Gaza, and returns an additional body the group says is hers. The identity was soon afterwards positively confirmed by Israel. (Al Arabiya) (BBC News)

Business and economy

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  • South Sudan orders the closure of all schools in the country for two weeks due to a heat wave, with temperatures expected to reach 42 °C (108 °F). (DW)

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February 20

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February 20, 2025 (2025-02-20) (Thursday)

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RD: Ilkka Kuusisto

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Article: Ilkka Kuusisto (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): YLE
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Influential in Finnish music as organist, radio programmer, director of music publisher, choir master of the Finnish National Opera, and then its General Manager, and all the time also a composer, prolific in operas. We had a 2007 article with Finnish sources --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Oded Lifshitz

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Article: Oded Lifshitz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): JTA, BBC News, Haaretz
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Israeli journalist, peace activist, and hostage, body returned to Israel yesterday shortly after confirmation of death. The Kip (contribs) 20:04, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support - article looks well sourced to me ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 21:32, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support - good article. Lova Falk (talk) 06:39, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ariel and Kfir Bibas

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Article: Kidnapping of the Bibas family (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Ariel and Kfir Bibas (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The bodies of Ariel and Kfir Bibas were identified by Israel after being transferred during the 2025 Gaza war ceasefire. Arguably the most-known hostages as part of the ongoing crisis, this has recent widespread international attention. Though this article isn't directly about the children, I believe their deaths (now confirmed) are significant enough to qualify for RD. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 19:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should this not also include Shiri, the wife/their mother, as well as Oded Lifshitz, remains also passed on this last exchange? This is a tricky situation as I don't think this turnover itself is sufficient ITN beyond what's already in the ongoing. Maybe a blurb in terms of being an unusual death? Masem (t) 19:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Shiri's body was not returned (Hamas gave Israel an unidentified body) so her death has yet to be officially confirmed. Perhaps a separate RD could be proposed for Lifshitz too. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 19:58, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Masem Lifshitz has been proposed as a separate RD, but for the moment it appears Shiri's body was not actually returned. The Kip (contribs) 20:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support on a blurb here. I don’t think this quite qualifies for a RD because the article isn’t about individual people (this is a really gray area) but I do think it fits the criteria for death announced in the past seven days, since Hamas isn’t a verifiable source. The article’s quality is good and this is certainly a big story that I have been seeing on multiple news sites. I believe Hamas has recently handed over a fifth body they claim is Shiri’s, so soon we may be able to add her to the blurb when that is verified. ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 21:49, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Frankétienne

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Article: Frankétienne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News:Frankétienne, considered one of Haiti’s most important and prolific writers, dies at 88
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Haitian author and painter. Jaguarnik (talk) 17:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 4 Nations Face-Off

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Article: 2025 4 Nations Face-Off (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In ice hockey, the Canadian men's team defeats the United states' in the 4 Nations Face-Off final amidst heightened tensions between the two countries. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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 ArionStar (talk) 17:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • At minimum, oppose on quality, no game summaries or the like are absent. --Masem (t) 17:38, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Though I did watch the final of this event, it was basically a replacement for the NHL All Star Game, which divided players into home countries. From the target article the tournament was primarily an NHL-only event, having no affiliation with the worldwide International Ice Hockey Federation. Not significant enough to be posted at ITN, in comparison to other sports events. Natg 19 (talk) 17:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Even as a huge hockey fan and frequent WP:NHL contributor - it was a limited-participation tournament done under the NHL's watch rather than the IIHF as a replacement for the All-Star Game. Doesn't quite meet the bar for ITN. The Kip (contribs) 18:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This was a fun few games but it was the NHL messing around with their All-Star format, not an officially sanctioned international tournament. Modest Genius talk 18:24, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - as a Canadian - we have to be kidding. I don't see ITNs for various Persian Gulf four-team tournies. Maybe if it becomes a thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nfitz (talk • contribs) 20:14, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: David Boren

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Article: David Boren (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former governor of Oklahoma. 240F:7A:6253:1:99BF:AE1B:130C:232D (talk) 14:25, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Topological qubits

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Articles: Majorana 1 (talk · history · tag) and Majorana fermion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Microsoft researchers claim to have created topological qubits using Majorana quasiparticles. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Microsoft announces Majorana 1 – a quantum computer chip which uses Majorana quasiparticles as topological qubits.
News source(s): Nature report, Nature paper, New York Times, FT, South China Morning Post, Ars Technica
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Article updated

Nominator's comments: This is cutting-edge work and so not certain but the primary source is a peer-reviewed paper in Nature. My start point was a front page report in the NYT which talked about "another phase of matter" but didn't explain it well. I wanted to find out more and so I suppose many readers will likewise come to Wikipedia for more details. ITN can help them find relevant articles. I have suggested a blurb which links to two of them but maybe there's more.

The practical significance of this development is that it may facilitate the construction of quantum computers which are currently held back by the instability of their quantum bits (qubits). This approach promises to be more stable. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question: Did they create the computer, or are they claiming to have made it? If the latter, I suppose we'll have to wait a bit. MT(710) 09:36, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The claim is for a novel architecture in which they "implement a single-shot interferometric measurement of fermion parity, in indium arsenide–aluminium heterostructures with a gate-defined superconducting nanowire". So, this is an enabling technology or technique in this developing field. Lots more work would be needed before you can buy a device yourself.
    The role of Wikipedia here is not to say whether or not this is a solid result and how soon it will get to market. What we have are lots of good background articles such as Ettore Majorana, whose name appears in this context. He's a little-known genius who seems to have discovered the neutron before Chadwick and mysteriously disappeared. I'd not heard of him before and this is a good opportunity to help readers find out more so that they better understand the news reports.
    Andrew🐉(talk) 10:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    In other words, absolutely nothing to do with ITN. Try DYK. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 13:09, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on significance. Unfortunately, I will have to oppose the boldlinking of Topological quantum computer due to the uncited paragraphs. The other concern is whether they actually did what they claim to have done, but it seems that news sources are accepting their claim at face value and I think a large company like Microsoft has less incentive to lie about discoveries like this than most researchers. Toadspike [Talk] 10:51, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not certain that's the best target for bolding as a number of related articles have started spiking on the news. Perhaps we should go with Majorana 1 which is a new article and every paragraph in that has at least one source. That article seems reasonably NPOV and balanced too in that it presents sceptical views as well as the claims and details. I've added an ALT for that. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:56, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Now that I've read the discussion below, it looks like the evidence for their claims is not as strong as I thought. I will switch my !vote to Wait until better evidence is presented, then support. Toadspike [Talk] 08:31, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course Microsoft is highly incentivized to lie: patents. Either to get some now, thanks to the brainless rubber-stamping US PTO, or to protect themselves against better-evidenced patents from everyone else when it all becomes real. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 13:22, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait: The similar Microsoft announcement four years ago was retracted [1]. 128.91.201.203 (talk) 14:13, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That retraction in 2021 was for a paper in 2018 and we're not going to keep this discussion open for three years. Presumably, they and the peer-reviewers are aware of the issue now and think they've cracked it. Whether they have or haven't, it's still in the news and readers want to know more.
    Andrew🐉(talk) 14:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The 2018 paper was heavily criticized at the time by unimpressed outsiders, just like the current one. Readers aren't the only ones who want to know more: so do other researchers, and Microsoft isn't being helpful. The new paper itself is cautious about making any actual Majorana quasiparticle claims. At the moment, no one can tell if it's real or fluff, so really, it's little more than a hardball press release with Nature conniving. The scientific version of clickbait. In other words, Wait the three years or more if necessary. 128.91.201.203 (talk) 14:59, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Microsoft announced results in their press conference that do not correspond with the contents of the paper. Nature themselves published an accompanying news report that pours cold water on the claims [2] and emphasises that they're not in the paper. I have a CoI here so won't !vote, but it seems there's a lot of salesmanship going on without supporting evidence. We usually require science stories to be supported by peer-reviewed publication. Modest Genius talk 14:54, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    In an extraordinary step, I notice that the journal has added a disclaimer in the 'peer review file': "The editorial team wishes to point out that the results in this manuscript do not represent evidence for the presence of Majorana zero modes in the reported devices." I've never before seen a paper that had such an editorial disclaimer. Modest Genius talk 15:05, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose based on MG's observations that this is not backed by peer review, and reads more like PROMO when taking that into account. Masem (t) 15:07, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The Nature paper was explicitly peer-reviewed:

    "Peer review information: Nature thanks Hao Zhang and the other, anonymous, reviewer(s) for their contribution to the peer review of this work. Peer reviewer reports are available."

    Andrew🐉(talk) 15:23, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes it was, but that paper does not report any topological qubits. Modest Genius talk 15:33, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that that is confusing and unsatisfactory but that's where I came in – I read the report on the front page of the NYT and didn't understand what they were saying. You may know all about this already but we're here for the lay readers who are reading the news, not for the experts and professionals. By saying nothing, we're not helping to clarify what's going on. Running the bottom bus plunge blurb for another day doesn't seem so helpful or interesting. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:55, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    By saying nothing, we are in fact clarifying what's going on: nothing. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 16:16, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Expert opinions seem to differ on that. Per the Nature report, "“Would I bet my life that they’re seeing what they think they’re seeing? No, but it looks pretty good,” says Steven Simon, a theoretical physicist at the University of Oxford, UK, who was briefed on the results." Andrew🐉(talk) 17:57, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Which is a scientific way of saying "nothing". A lot more needs to be done before any Majorana claims can be taken seriously. Meanwhile, excited cheering from one of the sidelines is going to happen. But if you put on some noise-cancelling headphones, you'll hear the "nothing". 128.91.40.237 (talk) 13:09, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    While we should write at a lay person level, writing towards requires actual knowledge about a complicated topic which the NYTimes or most other mainstream news isn't going to cover it at that level. Masem (t) 18:05, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that when it comes to breaking scientific news, the NYT has long been a sad case with random accuracy and little real information. Within physics, all big announcements regarding string theory, fusion energy, and quantum computation are to be treated with extreme skepticism, but since it's clickbait, the NYT passes along the more spinnable hype without shame. Let's just say that the NYT has done an overcompensating 180 from its glory days of laughing at rockets in space, since they can't push against vacuum. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 13:09, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait per 128.91.201.203. — EF5 15:31, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait. I disagree with Andrew's need to "rush" to get this posted, especially if the actual results are unclear. Wikipedia does not need to "break news" and we especially do not want to have the wrong breaking news. Natg 19 (talk) 17:28, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, needs more scrutiny , and the blurb itself should probably include some (slightly) more layman's terms. I mean, I dunno what a topological qubit is or why it matters, but if you told me Microsoft claims they can permanently store quantum information in a solid state now, then okay that's really cool 675930s (talk) 12:49, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait. Grok is not convinced:
"....As of February 20, 2025, Microsoft’s claims are holding up in the sense that their physics looks solid—better than 2018—and they’ve built something tangible. The Nature data is a step forward, and their engineering focus suggests intent to deliver. But “holding up” doesn’t mean proven beyond doubt. They’ve shown a qubit, not a computer. The leap to millions of qubits hinges on untested scaling and error rates they haven’t fully disclosed. The scientific community’s cautiously optimistic but wants more: entanglement demos, error-rate benchmarks, and independent verification.
So, are they holding up? Tentatively, yes—for now. The foundation’s there, but it’s a house of cards until they show it works at scale. The next few years—two-qubit entanglement, eight-qubit error correction—will tell if this is a breakthrough or another overreach." Lfstevens (talk) 22:52, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are you referring to Grok (chatbot)? I really hope you aren't asking a chatbot to assess scientific news, let alone ITN nominations. Use of LLMs on Wikipedia is strongly discouraged - it's best to avoid them completely. Modest Genius talk 13:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

February 19

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RD: Mike Lange

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Article: Mike Lange (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NHL.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Sportscaster for the Pittsburgh Penguins. 240F:7A:6253:1:99BF:AE1B:130C:232D (talk) 14:25, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Milind Rege

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Article: Milind Rege (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Decent shape. Natg 19 (talk) 06:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Joe Haines (journalist)

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Article: Joe Haines (journalist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Good shape. Natg 19 (talk) 06:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Souleymane Cissé (film director)

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Article: Souleymane Cissé (film director) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5] ABC News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs work. Natg 19 (talk) 06:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Snowy Fleet

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Article: Snowy Fleet (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs work. Natg 19 (talk) 06:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Glenn Knight

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Article: Glenn Knight (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Looks in good shape. Natg 19 (talk) 06:26, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

February 18

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RD: Dickson Despommier

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Article: Dickson Despommier (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American academic, microbiologist and ecologist. Developed the modern idea of Vertical farming. Obit published 18 February. Thriley (talk) 02:57, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Discovery of King Thutmose II's tomb

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Article: Tomb of Thutmose II (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Archaeologists confirm the discovery of the King Thutmose II's (relief pictured) tomb, the first royal Egyptian tomb to be discovered since Tutankhamun's in 1922. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Archaeologists confirm that tomb Wadi C-4 (relief pictured) was originally a tomb for Thutmose II, the first royal tomb to be discovered in Egypt since Tutankhamun's in 1922.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Archaeologists announce that the empty tomb Wadi C-4 (relief pictured) was that of the pharaoh Thutmose II.
News source(s): CBS News, BBC
Credits:

 ArionStar (talk) 04:42, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support in principle, but two things concern me: one, the target article has nothing about this discovery at all. Related, we usually like to see the published peer-review journal that affirms the findings, and while this is not to say that the Egyptian Ministry of Tourism & Antiquities is not reliable here, I can't seem to find any academic source that can be used to build out the discovery aspect of the tomb to a degree beyond the simple news coverage gives. Masem (t) 05:10, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, oppose on quality per Masem. Seems like a fairly major development, but oddly the coverage in RS is all fairly surface-level. Hopefully some more detailed coverage in RS emerges and is added to the article soon. FlipandFlopped ツ 05:39, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle. This is excellent news of high encyclopaedic value.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:21, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle Egyptian antiquities authority is a reliable enough source. Substantial advancement in Egyptology. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 08:29, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on quality, while yes, in the scale of things this is a rather important discovery, it's not very notable in the context provided by ArionStar's comment, as the time for this discovery has come and gone, especially considering we've had so much stuff in the news lately. Kingofmapps (talk) 13:24, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Quick skim over the main target article (that of the tomb) reveals it to be postable. Certainly notable. Bremps... 23:18, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support yippie! something that isn't political results or a tragedy in ITN! Article looks fine quality wise. Scuba 05:01, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The article tells us that the mummy of Thutmose II (right) was found long ago in 1881. The new discovery is claimed to have been the original tomb. It appears that the mummy was moved because of raiders and so this tomb has been plundered and doesn't contain artifacts comparable with those of Tutankhamun. So there doesn't seem to be much to show. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:31, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Articles changed. ArionStar (talk) 11:35, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Bolsonaro indicted

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Consensus to speedy close --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:34, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Prosecution of Jair Bolsonaro (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Jair Bolsonaro (pictured), the former president of Brazil, and 33 others are indicted in connection with the 2022 Brazilian coup plot. (Post)
News source(s): Folha de S.Paulo
Credits:
 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 00:52, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Marian Turski

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Article: Marian Turski (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://polin.pl/en/marian-turski-co-founder-and-friend-polin-museum-has-passed-away
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 EUPBR (talk) 18:25, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Gerard Ridsdale

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Article: Gerald Ridsdale (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/feb/18/gerald-ridsdale-australias-most-notorious-pedophile-priest-dies-in-jail-ntwnfb
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Australia’s most notorious paedophile priest, died in jail. HiLo48 (talk) 07:30, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Egyptian Military Buildup

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Consensus to post will not develop. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 21:31, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Egypt–Israel relations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Amid regional tensions, Israel’s ambassador to the United States acknowledges the buildup of Egyptian military forces in the Sinai Peninsula for the first time. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Israeli officials acknowledge an Egyptian military buildup in the Sinai Peninsula for the first time amidst rising tensions.
News source(s): https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-842533
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Alternative blurb suggestions are welcome. (First time nominating, apologies for any mistakes) User:IiSmxyzXX User talk:IiSmxyzXX 06:53, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose since this isn't mentioned in the article linked. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:34, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, the article hasn’t been updated since the start of year, and is missing a lot of information surrounding the war. IiSmxyzXX (talk) 10:38, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is my first time replying to ITN post, but I do think that it is not yet warrant a global attention yet, especially given that iirc the blubs for the Russian invasion of Ukraine is only posted when the military action begins. NotKringe (talk) 11:50, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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February 17

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February 17, 2025 (2025-02-17) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

RD: Itch Jones

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Article: Itch Jones (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 20:51, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Edwin Clark

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Article: Edwin Clark (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Cable BBC (in Igbo)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Nigerian politician TNM101 (chat) 04:22, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Rick Buckler

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Article: Rick Buckler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Drummer for the Jam. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 22:55, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jamie Muir

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Article: Jamie Muir (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Louder, DGMLive
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Scottish percussionist, member of King Crimson. 82. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 18:14, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Francesco Rivella

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Article: Francesco Rivella (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fox News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: New article, date death announced. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 15:03, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Delta flip-flop

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Consensus to post will not develop. Stephen 05:07, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Delta Connection Flight 4819 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Delta Bombardier (pictured) flips on landing at Toronto. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN, NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: No, nobody was killed but the nature of the accident seems remarkable and likely to be of interest to our readers given the stream of other aviation accidents in North America lately. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:54, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose and procedural close, as per PK3. The discussion already has been snowclosed before. I’ve voted for delete on the AfD discussion. Barely significant. 64.114 etc 00:04, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose - At AfD and barely significant enough for ITN. EF5 23:44, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on significance. If we posted every aviation incident on this scale ITN would stand for "In Travel News". We're only even considering it because of systemic bias toward U.S. news. Sdkb talk 23:54, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The incident happened in Canada (which has not yet been annexed). I nominated it because I just saw it on the BBC News in the UK and thought it seemed interesting. It's "in the news", you see; unlike the bus plunge which happened over a week ago and which we're only now blurbing. Andrew🐉(talk) 00:13, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Andrew, please review WP:POINT. GenevieveDEon (talk) 01:36, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support own article. Article definitely needs to be cleaned up before it's fully ready but I suspect that'll continue to happen over the next several hours. Article was AfDd, but the AfD closed as SNOW a second time and there doesn't appear to be any dispute against it yet. This happened in Canada, so it's not just U.S. news. It did land upside-down, but the flight was a hull loss, most likely a total writeoff. guninvalid (talk) 00:12, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose for now On the one hand, I agree with Andrew that the nature of the accident is remarkable, and that interest/coverage will likely be amplified by the recent surge of plane crashes. Also, the rush to nominate this for AfD and then cite it being at AfD to torpedo this ITN nom, comes from a cohort of editors who are overly zealously applying WP:NOTNEWS in violation of WP:RAPID. But even still, nobody died and it's not clear to me whether or not this accident comes from a cause which will drum up even bigger coverage (example: Boeing 737 Max style design defect), or whether it was instead something more ordinary (e.g. pilot overreacts to a gust of wind). Willing to change my mind if subsequent coverage in RS continues to grow as opposed to die out. FlipandFlopped ツ 00:16, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, for the record, I strongly oppose SNOW closing this nomination. It is far too soon to snow close this, and we should not set the precedent that prematurely nominating a recent event at AfD precludes it from ITN eligibility. FlipandFlopped ツ 00:19, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
By that, do you mean you oppose the SNOW close at the AfD? Or would you oppose a SNOW close of this ITN nomination? guninvalid (talk) 00:56, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The latter! FlipandFlopped ツ 01:03, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - no fatalities. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 01:20, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Flip and flop. Nobody died. Hooray for air safety. I doubt this is going to be more than a drop in the bucket of aviation incidents this year, albeit perhaps the most fun to laugh at due to the lack of loss of life and sheer absurdity of the incident. Like a pancake, or perhaps a $11.69 four-egg omelette.
I might support the storm system / arctic airmass that caused this. It's pretty damn cold in the Midwest, and the coldest I can ever recall it getting after January. I know Minneapolis gets cold and that's their thing, but a chilly −45 °F (−43 °C) after wind chills in February might be a bit over the line. Departure– (talk) 04:32, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Paquita la del Barrio

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Article: Paquita la del Barrio (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Latin Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mexican singer. Unsourced discography, but the rest of the article appears sufficiently sourced. –FlyingAce✈hello 22:06, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support article looks good to go. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:06, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Frits Bolkestein

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Article: Frits Bolkestein (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dutch news
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Dutch liberal politician and European commissioner for internal market

(Closed) Flash flooding in eastern United States

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Consensus is against posting the blurb on ITN. On a related note, Kentuckian should not climb the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man. (non-admin closure) 🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 02:04, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: February 2025 North American storm complex (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A storm complex in the United States causes flash flooding, claiming at least 14 lives in Kentucky, West Virginia, and Georgia. (Post)
Alternative blurb II: ​ Flash flooding in the United States claims at least 12 lives in Kentucky with others still missing.
News source(s): CNN, NBC, New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: I nominated this article for ITN yesterday, and it was closed after only about 40 minutes. Since then, the article has been expanded and updated, and I now believe it is ready for ITN.  Kentuckian |💬   18:01, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose again, because even with 11 deaths, thousands die worldwide from seasonal flooding, this is a minor incident along those lines. --Masem (t) 18:02, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you even read the article? 13 people have died with others still missing. Not even mentioning the property damage, this was a disastrous flood. It should not take 100 people to die for something to be considered "notable". Maybe if you lived in EKY and witnessed this catastrophe first hand you’d feel different.  Kentuckian |💬   18:07, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, it was tragic but we cannot post every tragic event that happens. For example the Taichung department store explosion is tragic, but as seen in its discussion below, people dying is not a reason to post. History6042😊 (Contact me) 18:14, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It is not the number of deaths but the fact that when seasons change or warm weather follows from heavy snowfall, there is routine flooding which routinely can bring deaths. Its less often that happens in the US but it happens frequently. --Masem (t) 18:18, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm sorry, I don't usually get this angry, but this is really making me mad seeing how ignorant some people are. First off, snow melting did not cause this, it was heavy rain. Second off. Yes, I agree, there is usually flooding that causes 1-2 deaths, but this is 13 people in three different states. And we aren't even gonna talk about the property damage. As I said, maybe if you lived in Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia and seen this catastrophe first hand you would feel differently.  Kentuckian |💬   18:28, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You appear to be emotionally invested in this event and the nomination. Perhaps to the point of not being able to objectively assess notability. This is an encyclopedia, not a blog for people to share their personal traumas.--Danthemankhan 18:54, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still oppose per Masem. History6042😊 (Contact me) 18:03, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support — Notable enough for ITN with 13 deaths. The article is well rounded with plenty of information. The argument “Flooding happens all the time across the United States”, doesn’t really hold water. Though it is true, those are usually just minor events with 1-2 deaths, while this is a major event that has caused 13 deaths with more fatalities likely and a lot of property damage. It is definitely notable. Shlumbis11 (talk) 20:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose and Snow Close per Masem and Departure. Suggest SNOW closing this renomination, until or unless there is a more substantive change in the nature of the floods themselves. FlipandFlopped ツ 21:52, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Snow close Good call, F&F. 72.143.219.80 (talk) 21:58, 17 February 2025 (UTC) •[reply]
  • Support - This was not by any means minor. Minor flooding would result in some damage to buildings, and maybe some deaths. This is MAJOR, the effects of this complex have been felt all over the entire country, from an EF4 tornado in Calfornia to the flooding in Kentucky, Virginia, and Tennessee. I don’t see how this isn’t notable, and the article seems to be in good shape. Fatcheeto728 (talk) 21:59, 17 February 2025 (UTC) — Fatcheeto728 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
    Also, for the record, the tornado in California was a much more common EF1. There haven't been any EF4s in California and it'll take more than a flood event or winter storm to change that. Departure– (talk) 00:03, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed how someone tagged this reply with “Fatcheeto728 has made few or no edits outside this topic”. Shouldn’t we do this to the several IP editors as well?  Kentuckian |💬   22:06, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not from what I can tell. A lot of IP editors often have good points in other discussions, or come from an IP range despite being serial constructive contributors. Registered accounts, on the other hand, going strongly against consensus, will be put under scrutiny if this was their first edit. Departure– (talk) 22:09, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article looks well sourced and is notable as well, since it event included power outages, flash floods, snow, and even a Tornado. TheHiddenCity (talk) 00:16, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I still do not believe this storm is terribly exceptional. Perhaps for a winter storm, but winter storms aren't generally enduring weather events when it comes down to it. There seems to be some attempt at synthesis here - no, this storm is not notable because it had some tornadoes - the last one did as well, and that one actually had a fatal tornado IIRC. Compare to the freak snowstorm across the Gulf Coast a few weeks ago. That was the more unusual and likely enduring weather event - it was evently voted down. DarkSide830 (talk) 01:13, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article looks ready to go and is of significant nature for one of the most impoverished areas of the US.CoatCheck (talk) 01:35, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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2025 Indonesian student protests

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Article: 2025 Indonesian student protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Hundreds of students start protests against the government of Indonesia across the country. (Post)
News source(s): [10]
Credits:

 ArionStar (talk) 16:50, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait on notability, given the protests only began today. Oppose on quality - the article in its current state completely fails to illustrate why the protests are occurring, with only a passing mention of "controversial [government] policies," and why the protests are unique/special; neither their size nor their cause appears to be overly unusual. The Kip (contribs) 18:21, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Statement from the page's creator: This article indeed requires many improvisation, and all editors are welcome to improve it. There might be errors since I am not an English native speaker, and I only created the page at 7 p.m. (ICT / UTC+8), when most protests were over. My decision is wait, since the protest only began this time.   DDG9912   22:07, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose When I google "student protest", I get reports of ongoing protests in other countries including Iran, Serbia and the US but am not seeing anything about Indonesia. So the latter are not sufficiently prominent to warrant special treatment. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:33, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Andrew Davidson: That's because the protests receive relatively small attention from foreign media outlets. According to this, all of the foreign websites named for reporting the event, are relatively obscure in your country, the United Kingdom.   DDG9912   09:20, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Presumably the sources for this are in the Indonesian Malay language. But this is the English language Wikipedia. This is a significant barrier and so it seems better for the topic to be covered at the Wikipedia for that language. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:30, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I just looked at that mainpage of the Indonesian Wikipedia and got it translated to English. It's interesting to see that their equivalent of ITN (Peristiwa terkini) seems to be a straight translation of the English ITN's blurbs even though the bold articles are often redlinks because they don't exist in that language. There is an article there for this topic (Unjuk rasa mahasiswa Indonesia 2025) though. I wonder to what extent that is related to the English equivalent? Andrew🐉(talk) 17:21, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Andrew Davidson
    The Indonesian language article is mostly just a translation of the English one sadly. Please read the article again as it has been quite significantly updated from last time when it was nominated. Considering the scale alone on how many cities and universities participated, I stand that this deserves ITN the same way 2024 Indonesian local election law protests was. Nyanardsan (talk) 01:42, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Andrew and my own personal google fu, I'm not quite convinced these protests warrant a blurb when there are similarly styled protests taking place across the world. Article quality needs a lot of work as well. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 18:34, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on notability per above. --SpectralIon 19:25, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DDG9912@ArionStar
If this nomination fails or not getting enough traction for now, I'm suggesting re-nominating it tomorrow (which is supposed to be the peak demonstration according to the student bodies). I do think this deserves to be ITN, mainly because of the scale that is relatively big compared to other countries mentioned by @Andrew Davidson and it called for mobilization of university students all over the country to join the protest similar to 2024 Indonesian local election law protests which if I'm remember correctly was ITN. Not to mention this is the first large-scale student protest of the Prabowo administration.
Nyanardsan (talk) 15:39, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Renomination is not normally done. Just provide an update here, please. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Protests occur all the time all around the world; its only if those protests actually have an immediate impact, such as if they turn violent, or that they have direct impact (like the Indian farmers' one that used to block main roads). I'm not seeing this here, this is mostly a large but peaceful demonstration. Masem (t) 02:44, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

M23 captures Bukavu

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Article: 2025 Bukavu offensive (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the March 23 Movement captures Bukavu, the capital of South Kivu province, as part of an ongoing offensive (Post)
News source(s): Guardian BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Last month, we posted when M23 rebels captured Goma, the capital of North Kivu province. Well now they've taken Bukavu, an even larger city and the capital of South Kivu province. There was a lot less fighting this time around, but widespread looting occurred, apparently not by M23 themselves. The Congolese army retreated without contesting control of the city, and the government has admitted it has fallen. It took more than two years of fighting to capture one major city, now two have fallen in just a few weeks. The article has been updated (not by me) and is in good shape already. Modest Genius talk 14:19, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support on quality, the article seems well sourced. oppose on notability, this is covered by ongoing. History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:43, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

February 16

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February 16, 2025 (2025-02-16) (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

International relations

RD: Vladimír Válek

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Article: Vladimír Válek (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Violin Channel
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Influential conductor not only in Prague, shaping their radio orchestra from 1985 to 2011, regarded as the Prague Leonard Bernstein. The article was poor but so is the Czech one. There's still room for more detail, if someone has the time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Julian Holloway

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Article: Julian Holloway (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [11]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English actor. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 22:52, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Gil Won-ok

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Article: Gil Won-ok (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Korea Times MK
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Korean activist TNM101 (chat) 07:35, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Viktor Antonov

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Article: Viktor Antonov (art director) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): IGN PC Gamer
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Video game art designer. Curbon7 (talk) 03:36, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, far too short. History6042😊 (Contact me) 09:36, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Kim Sae-ron

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Article: Kim Sae-ron (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [12]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South Korean television and film actress.

On that note, maybe I can just refer to links of pictures from the press of her appearances in both (since technically these award shows will always invite their nominees; that is, those who work for the stations)? –Angga (formerly Angga1061) 10:33, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed...the remaining CN issues – as per my suggestions. –Angga (formerly Angga1061) 07:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) British Academy Film Awards

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Article: 78th British Academy Film Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the British Academy Film Awards, Conclave (director Edward Berger pictured) wins four awards including Best Film. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Updated. Note that Berger did not win best director, but as the main creative did receive the Outstanding British Film award - the blurb could be amended re. describing his photo. Kingsif (talk) 21:46, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Michael O'Sullivan (jockey)

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Article: Michael O'Sullivan (jockey) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [14]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Irish jockey who died due to a fall. History6042😊 (Contact me) 21:24, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Half marathon world record

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Article: Jacob Kiplimo (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Jacob Kiplimo sets the current world record for the half marathon at 56 minutes and 42 seconds. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Jacob Kiplimo sets the world record at the Barcelona Half Marathon, finishing in 56 minutes and 42 seconds.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In athletics, Jacob Kiplimo sets the world record in half marathon, finishing the Barcelona Half Marathon in 56 minutes and 42 seconds.
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Nominator's comments: I've never tried to do ITN before but I noticed this achievement in the news and it seems to meet the criteria. It seemed better to ask than to do nothing. Clovermoss🍀 (talk)

(Closed) Flash flooding in United States

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WP:SNOW close, consensus to post will not develop. The Kip (contribs) 18:14, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: February 2025 United States floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Flash flooding impacts parts of the United States, claiming at least 8 lives in Kentucky. (Post)
News source(s): New York Times, CNN, FOX Weather, AP, WLWT5
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Nominator's comments: Article is no longer a stub and has been updated. Please read the article before casting a vote.  Kentuckian |💬   17:18, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on notability Floods occur all over the world and with three victims these, although unfortunate, are not ITN-worthy for now. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:31, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Alsor. History6042😊 (Contact me) 17:35, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose conditionally way too stubby. Support otherwise but it's prolly best to wait for a greater impact. — Knightoftheswords 17:31, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose in terms of quality. The article needs to have information in order to have support. Rager7 (talk) 17:47, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on quality and Weak Oppose on notability. BTW the name is now February 2025 North American storm complex. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 18:07, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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New racewalking world record for men's 20km

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Article: Toshikazu Yamanishi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In men's 20 kilometres race walk, Toshikazu Yamanishi (pictured) breaks a 10-year-old world record with a time of 1:16:10. (Post)
News source(s): World Athletics
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Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: The article needs significant updates. UCinternational (talk) 05:37, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose, this is way to short to even be considered. History6042😊 (Contact me) 17:03, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Ongoing: Myanmar civil war

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No consensus to post to ongoing. Stephen 01:03, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Myanmar civil war (2021-present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
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Article updated
Nominator's comments: Article is ready for inclusion into the list. If I did this the wrong way, please tell me, I didn't know where else to request this. TurboSuperA+ (☏) 15:37, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TurboSuperA+ I've fixed it for you TNM101 (chat) 17:14, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. TurboSuperA+ (☏) 19:42, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: No major updates. MT(710) 17:21, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose article isn't receiving the updates necessary for ongoing. The Kip (contribs) 18:16, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support I think this conflict needs more attention, but it's being nominated at a pretty bad time with few offensives currently ongoing. --SpectralIon 20:04, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    There's articles and updates on the war every week, e.g. [15]. I was hoping that mentioning it on the front page might encourage editors to update it more frequently.
    How many people even know about the civil war going on over there? Wars in Gaza and Ukraine dominate the headlines/attention, but Wikipedia is a global project and the front page shouldn't only cover things that might be of interest in the West. TurboSuperA+ (☏) 20:25, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    There's articles and updates on the war every week
    Yes, in news sources. They're not being added to the linked article, though, therefore the article isn't eligible for ongoing.
I was hoping that mentioning it on the front page might encourage editors to update it more frequently.
That's not how ITN works. The Kip (contribs) 20:29, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
🫡 TurboSuperA+ (☏) 20:46, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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February 15

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February 15, 2025 (2025-02-15) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Gerhart Baum

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Article: Gerhart Baum (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FAZ
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German politician and Federal Minister of the Interior Grimes2 (talk) 16:42, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Muhsin Hendricks

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Article: Muhsin Hendricks (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): barrons
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: World's first openly gay imam. Was murdered on this date. Article is a GA so it might be good to post soon. Onegreatjoke (talk) 07:09, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Barry Urban

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Article: Barry Urban (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News The West Australian WAtoday
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian politician. Steelkamp (talk) 02:24, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) New Chairperson of African Union

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Articles: Mahamoud Ali Youssouf (talk · history · tag) and Chairperson of the African Union Commission (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Mahamoud Ali Youssouf has been elected Chairperson of the African Union Commission (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Djiboutian diplomat Mahamoud Ali Youssouf won Chairperson of African Union
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former foreign minister of Djibouti Mahamoud Ali Youssouf elected as Chairperson of the African Union Commission
Alternative blurb III: ​ Mahamoud Ali Youssouf (pictured) is elected the new Chairman of the African Union Commission
News source(s): AP Reuters
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Nominator's comments: If Ursula von der Leyen election nominated before then AU chairperson deserve ITN QalasQalas (talk) 16:57, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment the argument you use is totally wrong. There are many differences between the EU and the African Union: in the latter there is neither a single market nor a common currency, nor is there interdependence and the need for common harmonization of laws for the member countries, nor is there political cohesion, nor do the institutions have supranational power like the European ones, among many other differences. That said, I believe that the election of the president of the AU commission may deserve ITN's attention for its representative role at the international and diplomatic level of the continent. I have added a more grammatically correct altblurb and more in line with ITN's MOS. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:37, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is it sounding excessively egoistic!! Because proving AU value to be better and more important by EU due to popularity and wealth. and without contempt aren't both equivalent? QalasQalas (talk) 19:41, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The AU is moreso akin to a regional United Nations, similar to the Organization of American States, the Pacific Islands Forum, or the Council of Europe; the EU is a supranational union sharing a common currency, borders (via the Schengen Area), regulations, an elected continental parliament, and so on, almost like a super-state. That's not "egotistic" or "popularity and wealth," that's just factual. The Kip (contribs) 20:06, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is completely wrong. The AU is a supranational union akin to the EU. It has a free trade area, a parliament, and plans to have a continental customs union (having set up regional ones), a common market like the EEC, and a monetary union. See Agenda 2063. Kowal2701 (talk) 20:36, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kowal2701, both the monetary union and the customs union are planned, not actual things put in place akin to the EU. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 21:24, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This. It has ambitions of being EU-like but it's quite far away from actually being there. The Kip (contribs) 22:23, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not that far away, and has institutions the EU doesn't yet, like peacekeeping. It's still a major player on the international stage. Is the EU the only continental bloc we've historically posted? Really surprised we've never posted this, given how important continental blocs are becoming Kowal2701 (talk) 23:04, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Youssouf’s article and the Chairperson article are in better shape but the election article is still very poor, I’m going to try to add more about the debates. I think the Chairperson one is okay quality-wise, but struggling to improve Youssouf’s one further if anyone can help out
Kowal2701 (talk) 22:28, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciated man QalasQalas (talk) 23:11, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Thoughts on quality now? Not sure it can be improved much further given the sourcing issues

Kowal2701 (talk) 21:08, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Think its okay when compared to articles like UN Secretary General. At least not embarrassing to have on the main page I hope. Kowal2701 (talk) 21:49, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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